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PostSubject: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   02.03.15 23:36

Apparently UE4 is now completely free.. Well.. aside from 5% royalties you need to pay IF you're selling your game...

So if someone thinks they can make great AvP game from scratch then.. get to work!
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   06.03.15 23:00

I myself don't have the skills (or at least I think that) to make it. I never did something like that.

Making a game from scratch is probably pretty hard. I think it would only be possible if the whole (former) AJL Mod community (including LAB) and basically everyone worked together.

But, you should be the leader (or at least join the efford, too) :) The whole community exists because you were the great visionary behind AJL - still the best Alien and Predator multiplayer game out there.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   18.03.15 19:16

Im trying to do AvP on Unreal Engine 4 but it's very long way and propably when i start showing first screens and videos i will be shut down like a guy who was porting AvP1 on CryEngine.


This is all what i got for now so i would need around 2+ more years
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   18.03.15 20:08

I never get that lawsuit problem what people always refers. I don't understand by what law they could force you to stop your will to make either game, movie, music or art of any kind, so long as you don't make profit of it anyway.

If I example take Metallica song Enter Sandman and song it myself here home only by wearing my underpants over my head, record it and make video of it, send it on net.
I bet no one in this world can throw any kind law-business against me, so long as I don't earn even net-site profits of it.
I can even go at mall and song it naked there, jack-off same time and no one can arrest me for singing it so long as I don't pick a single coin that old grannies flip for my performance, only that they can arrest me is behaving improper way on a public place.

Same goes games. I could do AvP game and name it "Jason Voorhees vs. Michael Myers in a Land of Teenagers, Prostitution and Child Abuse". Featuring Batman as Michael Madsen and Mike Tyson as Teletubby.
So long as there ain't child abuse and I don't collect a dime, no one can't stop me or force me to remove my artistic vision from net.

At least I think it's like that Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   18.03.15 22:25

Money <- answer for everything.

Even if you made free to play game(about Aliens for example) it may decrease sale for every game that is in Alien universe, because people may won't buy another Alien game if they have good one for free. And company who purchased rights to make an alien game will do everything to shut down this threat.

Normal people are afraid of big corporations who may destroy theirs lifes so even letter make them delete theirs projects.

Guy who was making AvP on CryEngine just disappear from internet. That's kinda creepy. :\
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   19.03.15 1:37

So basically it's all bluff Laughing . Little kids learn to code few lines and manage to pull of half-made game of their dreams...

All you need is push and look his eyes without emotional signs and he get scared Wink . Hah! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   22.03.15 3:47

This is as far as I went:
A Full predator made from scratch almost ready to go (the rig is 75% complete, th hardest will be the skinning but I don't have any knowledge about that).

I'm kinda proud, I managed to keep the poly count under the 20 000 tris.
It was not very easy I admit, I had to make some sacrifice (like having less thin dreadlock).

Good to see there are still people interested.

I don't wonder though if we could export AVP2 directly to UD4 since it support C++ now.
We may not get the animations of the models but that can be re-done quickly since the rig is intact.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   22.03.15 21:57

Looks good but should it be little more muscular, like reptilian muscular (crocodile like), and maybe little raised height from waist to chest to give it look of taller.

Just that it won't look too small compared to human + physically strong enough to throw xenos around.
Not too important yet, just throwing idea Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   23.03.15 0:32

Hey, thank you for the kind word and feedback.
I guess the perspective is to blame maybe, here is what it looks like compared to a (TALL 1.85cm) human:



As you can also see, it has quite some muscle.
To get the proportion, I tried to average AVP2, AVP2010 and a Predator model I found on the web.
I also used some blueprint references to create the predator that could be considered "normal".
It is based on the Predator from Predator 2 but with a cleaner armor (that could allow custom skin).

Keep in mind that normal map and specular map can increase the "muscle" just by the texture.
It's actually much easier to create the illusion it is massive and requires less polygons.
It also allow flexibility if you want to make different characters from the same model.

I dig a lot what Alien Isolation did with the Alien, I managed to find a 3D model of it as .obj
Looking around, I think I will go slightly smaller because it seems totally unplayable in an AVP Game.
A right proportion would be something that is 1/2 square more compare to the Predator you see.
It will looks quite huge to humans and a bit taller to Predator.

Is anybody still interested?
As I said before, I can do modeling, animations, mapping and eventually FX within the Unreal Engine.
But I can't do rigging, texturing and coding.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   23.03.15 2:17

Now that there is something to compare, it looks right scale Rolling Eyes .
And yea, skin textures give the muscles by shadows.

It's just that the old and non-playable Cancer mod on first AvP have so right felt looks with the huge alien models it has, since then I wished to see huge aliens and monstrosity like predator that give fear simply by it's size, like it did in Alien movie.
But there was that problem too in Cancer mod, alien model were so huge that they could not move and get stuck walls and tunnels.
...Maybe that problem could be diverted with model looking huge but actual registering of it to level objectives is smaller (like hitbox inside model).
Or then alien in a way change it "stance" or way to move when wall walking/crouching, it could shrink it's register to obstacles...hmm now I get too confused what I try to say.

Ok ok just thinking something fuzzy, let's forget it for now Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   26.03.15 18:28

Nice predator model but the final effect will be seen when you finish texturing. But even for now its realy good.

Earlier i said i would like to create game on Unreal Engine 4 but it's not for my PC. So i decided to work on Unity 3D and i did some progress. But i have still tons of work to do.

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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   01.04.15 17:06

And we i have done some progress now



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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   02.04.15 3:44

Rajen, you are a crazy motherfucker (take that as a compliment). I don't know shit about Unity or making games or modding or things like that, but what you did so far (in a very early stage) doesn't look bad at all! It looks actually pretty good!
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   02.04.15 14:34

Thank You hunterpred for good words. Creating game is realy exhausting. It's eat your time and your mind completly but it's realy fantastic feeling when everythink start working how you wanted.

But Aliens animations... bleh for sure it will be changed for something like in AvP2 (when standing on 2 legs).
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   03.04.15 4:21

I don't understand either anything. But like to know what you have done in those videos.
Is everything we see done by you - level, models, sounds, interface...all.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   03.04.15 21:57

Just models and sounds im not doing by myself (extracted from ACM and AvP2010 and AvP2). It's sounds easy but it isn't i had to hard work on them to put in Unity and all animations to them are made by myself. Other things like scripts(with package FPS KIT), HUD(interface), level design and animations ofcourse im doing from zero.

By the way. I have finally made ammo counter (red ammo display on M41A) and few other things(read description on youtube).

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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   06.04.15 12:43

And here we go almost ready motion tracker


What you think about motion tracker welded to smartgun(realistic to model)? So you can shot and watch tracker at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   06.04.15 17:34

So it was more than simple level editing with editor Rolling Eyes (I was just curious that's all Razz ).

As a idea and effective warfare it's great idea, but fails in theory if we think it realistically, out of game world.
First is that the real motion tracker is big and heavy tool, compared to hand and pistol example, that's why in Aliens movie one soldier didn't do nothing else than walking on a side of fellow grunt and showing him the screen of tracker (as giving vocal instructions so the dude ready to fire that threat could concentrate his view toward, not the tracker).
So if we weld it somewhere on ATMG (automatically-tracking machine gun), the gun itself becomes clumsy and most likely too heavy to use effectively as machine guns already are heavy weapons.

- The basic idea about Marines is like a Space Marines of WarHammer 40,000 - they are mobile strike force of strong punch, so they act fast and tactically, destroy enemy before it has changes to retaliate with full strength.
- Anything that slows them down without really giving enough benefits is tactically failing for them.
So if we put 2 things on table and compare.
1. There is trooper acting as adviser of enemy movements, letting rest of team stay sharp and focused on the enemy and aiming it, by giving instructions where the enemy is, how many and how it moves.
2. The trooper have to break his concentration by constantly checking tracker, checking direction of enemy coming in, checking tracker, checking enemy, checking tracker...you get the point Wink , and finally when he/she is about to fire, the gun is just a bit more heavy, just a bit more clumsy and just a bit more punishing to overall stamina as it's so damn...heavy.

...So I myself would keep the dude telling me enemy movements or me telling him enemy movements, but I would not want do both myself Cool


And when we think it in the game world, it just removes element of team play, even that no one plays team play, removing it makes things...less

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(If someday someone stills makes something like that, I personally don't cry cause of it, instead plan tactic how to use it most deadly. Also if someone makes predator that fires MIRV seekers (splitting on 4 different seekers seeking either 4 different target or blast one target from all sides simultaneously, I don't cry, I like it. Both to use it and try to defeat it))

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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   06.04.15 18:54

Realy usefull thank you for your comment. I won't weld Motion Tracker to Smartgun because it will destroy teamplay a bit(and it's coop game). So i prepared more details about classes(first version).

Unique*- it's a gun avalible for only 1 class.

Trooper - it's primary soldier of USCM, trained for combat only.

Weapon - M56 Smartgun (Unique*) - High fire rate, big magazine size(300), stabilization system and special vision with aim support.

Abilites;
- Motion Tracker (can be used only with WY-Pitbull), detecting movement on 180 angle.
- Frag Grenades.

Combat Medic - support soldier of USCM, bring the first aid for wounded Marines.

Weapon(Unique*) - TZ34 Betelgeuse - very light SMG type gun make soldier move faster, very high accuracy and firerate but not so much damage to target, magazine 50 bullets.

Abilites;
- Aid Kit - healing himself or other Marine.
- Flares - generates intense light for short amount of time.

Specialist - special USCM unit for many electronic type tasks.

Weapon(Unique*) - R15 Bull - powerfull shotgun, dealing a lot of damage on close range but fire rate and magazine size(6) is very low.

Abilites;
- Deploy auto-turret - auto targeting turret can create very good covering fire, made for securing area.
- Hacking Tool & Welder many doors are locked and can be opened only by this items.

Weapons avalible for all classes;
- M41A Pulse Rifle
- WY-Pitbull (Pistol)
- Ithaca 37 Pump-Action Shotgun
- Flamethrower
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   10.04.15 22:08

This is SinglePlayer version of very very early Project: Xeno. I'm uploading this to show you how will look combat system(mostly i mean weapons feeling). Map is for this test version only and it will be deleted in full version. You need DirectX 11 to launch this!

Story(it's just short shown what happening in this game):
Earth have lost contact with all colonies behind asteroids range in Solar System and few colonies in other systems in the same time, also all closest ships are not responding. Probes detected strong gravity field in this time for about 2 minutes and then it's dissapeared. Humanity is forcing defences on Earth and Mars only few ships are sended to check what happend to colonies(and this will be players job in full version game).

In this version of game you are guard who was on colony who wake up after strange event. You had lucky and you free yourself from the wall and found APC with some ammo and weapons. The point is - how long can you survive?

Download; http://www.moddb.com/games/project-xenos/downloads/project-xeno-v0001
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   10.04.15 22:36

Not really working for me in a.. rather strange way.. (I can only ever move to the right and forward.. never left or backward) scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   10.04.15 22:43

For me everything working fine, hm.. I can see in config when you click .exe there will be window called "Input" there is all keyconfig. You need to find is any key missing.

Make sure you have same config like this.

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PostSubject: Re: Unreal Engine 4.. for free..   11.04.15 14:05

I did manage to get some of the keys assigned, but its tricky with keys I am not used to.. especially trying to aim and shoot using keyboard is really awkward (for some reason it won't accept mouse buttons)

Unity propably saves the keymapping in some text file somewhere.. do you know where ?
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